ellie5192 replied to your post“I don’t want to get too involved, because I think there are a lot of…”I agree with everything you say! It would be more dangerous to have ‘perfect’ women on screen all the time, because that just sets up an equally unattainable standard for women…
A step in the right direction is better than no step at all, and I think Sorkin’s writing (while nowhere near perfect, don’t get me wrong) is a hell of a lot better than a lot of the trash that’s on TV. He never meant to write it as reality, he never does; his writing is always a hyper-reality of romantic proportions posing a world that he pines for; Jed Bartlett, the President America should have had yadda yadda.
His male characters are equally as flawed as the female characters, and if people have a problem with that, then it’s a debate about his ability to write other humans, not his blatant favouritism towards one gender. Don whines over his love life, and Will is emotionally neurotic, and Jim’s ‘nice guy’ complex gets him into trouble, and Charlie and Reese can barely ever play nice. They are all as bad as each other. Hell, Will takes the bunny-boiler psychopath trope to a whole new level with his ‘I know my reaction is messed up but you hurt my feelings so fuck you’.
And as a side note, the catty fight between Mac and Jane Barrow was refreshingly about the work they do. (And yes, it was in relation to Jerry, but I would argue that if was solely about professional credibility, not the simplified Bechdel description of mentioning men)
The women are aware of their personal faults and aren’t afraid to own up to them. Mac knows she ‘fucked everything up’ (and has no idea about sport lol!), Maggie acknowledges that her desperation for Africa was an emotional reaction to wanting to be ‘tough’ after her unhealthy relationship ended, Sloan frequently acknowledges that she has ‘no human knowledge’, even Jenna knows that being a greater fool is a pretty dumb move but she’s determined so good on her.
Sam & Jack screen cap fic: No! Not that one!
aka your “MacKenzie is dumb because she can’t send an email” argument is invalid
The Newsroom is one of the few shows I’ve seen recently that accurately portrays the bits and bytes (hah) of technology in the workplace lately.
I’ve done tech work for three different companies and the local…
I know (know as in was told by the person themselves over a glass of white wine) that a very high ranking Australian female federal politician
no names ever given here wrote a venting hate-rant ‘I can’t stand this bitch and refuse to work with her any longer because I might just straight up stab someone’ email, and accidentally sent it to ‘this bitch’ because her surname was right next to her friend’s surname. They were both under ‘M’ - she meant to send the email to the other M. Oops.That’s right. A federal politician. About Mac’s age. Who emails every day. Sent an email. To the wrong person.
It fucking happens, and if people say it doesn’t then they’re fucking liars who have some inflated notion of their technological savvy and are probably forgetting about the aforementioned age difference. Get off your high horse, Gen Y, jesus.
Also, you can’t say that flawed women in a show makes that show sexist unless you examine them in relation to the male characters too - look at the show as a whole. Are the women inherently flawed while the men soar high without fault? Sexist. Sure. But can Will put his pants on, Don fix his chair, Charlie remember the name of his acquaintance’s kid who died while working in a job he got for him, Reese find a fucking umbrella (dude), Neal get off his fucking Bigfoot angle, Jim run into a door not once but twice and then do the exact same thing Mac did a few years earlier when his relationships get messy…?
It’s not that the women of The Newsroom are flawed, the people of The Newsroom are flawed. But we’ve been so conditioned (rightfully conditioned! responsibly conditioned! keep fighting this fight I am with you!) to call out bullshit with regard to female characters that people are jumping on that bandwagon without considering the show as a whole. Compared to the rah-rah male brigade (oh but they have CJ!) of The West Wing, I think The Newsroom is leaps and bounds ahead for Sorkin’s writing.
That’s all I’m gonna say. No more rants. /endrant
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felison asked: alison childs
or sarah manning?
IM LAUGHING SO HARD WE ARE TAKING OUR MATH EXAM AND SOME GIRL JUST YELLED OUT “THERE’S NO WAY I GOT 11 MILLION AS MY FUCKING ANSWER”
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